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tonight on "world news," no deal. time running out to stop a government shutdown. can lawmakers cobble together an 11th hour deal? how americans are bracing for the fallout tonight. don't spare the rod. a fundamentalist pastor tells his flock, if they're not bruising their children, they're not spanking them enough. an abc news investigation. bank tanning. should children under the age of 18 be turned away from tanning beds, or does the strict new law go too far? and, shoes optional. why do the jonas brothers go bear foot for a day? heather graham and demi, too. meet the man who inspired them, our "person of the week."
good evening. as we come on the air tonight, congress and the white house are playing a high stakes game of chicken that could lead to the first government shutdown in more than 15 years. that countdown clock in times square shows just how close we are without a last minute deal, consequences effecting every american begin to cascade as midnight. and there are so many. for our military serves overseas, everyone waiting for a tax refound and the 800,000 federal workers. this story is changing by the minute, so, let's go to jake tapper at the white house with the latest. >> reporter: good evening george. well, there are two outstanding issues. one, about $5 billion. and a $3.8 trillion budget, that is about one-tenth of one percent. the other big issue, of course, funding planned parenthood. this may be the last group to see the view from atop the
washington monument for some time. as the national monuments close for the night and maybe longer. what's standing in the way of an agreement to present a government shutdown? each side says something different. democrats say republicans are obsessed with ending the more than $363 million in federal funding for planned parenthood. >> it's about cutting women's health care. and that, to me, is extremely offensive. >> reporter: republicans say democrats are not willing to be serious about spending cuts amid a debt crisis. >> we say we're serious about cutting spending, we're damn serious about it. >> reporter: these fights over spending cuts and planned parenthood came to a head last night in the oval office. president obama told speaker boehner he could agree to $35 billion in new spending cuts. said boehner, i need the number to be higher. the president said he could go higher, even up to $38 billion if programs the president supports, such as head start, were spared. boehner agreed in theory, but he would not agree to kill the
provision to defund planned parenthood. after all, boehner needs the support of tea party freshmen, like this man of texas who says if he's not going to get the spending cuts he wants, he need as political victory. >> i can say, look, i couldn't get $100 billion, but i got x, y and z. >> reporter: at last night's meeting, the planned parenthood debate answgered vice president biden. so, the disagreement continued all day today. >> don't have to go to planned parenthood to get your cholesterol or blood pressure checked. if you want an abortion, you go there. >> the tea party is trying to move this extreme social agenda, issues that have nothing to do with funding the government. >> reporter: george, behind the scenes here on the white house, officials are trying to cobble together some sort of compromise but the clock is ticking down, george. >> it sure is, jake. but i picked up in the last couple of hours from my sources
a lot more optimism than was out there earlier in the day. and that could be because they're reaching towards a compromise on this whole issue of planned parenthood. >> reporter: that's right. democratic and republican sources confirmed to me that they are close to resolving the planned parenthood issue. looks like they may return to the debate after the budget mess is solved. >> per happens have a separate vote. jake, thank you. let's go to jon karl, and the question of how much narrow differences might bring the government to a shutdown. jon has been putting that question to lawmakers all day and joins us now. >> reporter: the shutdown wouldn't happen until midnight, but here, it seems like we've had a full-blown breakdown. why negotiate when you can spend all day holding press conferences to beat up the other side? >> republicans are responsible. >> we are not going to roll over. >> not on our watch. >> no way, no how. >> we just say no. >> reporter: on the spending side, it all seems to boil down
to a difference of about $2 billion. are we going to shut the government down over $2 billion? >> every billion is important. >> reporter: but you wouldn't want to shut the government down for $2 billion, would you, really? >> well, why would my democrat colleagues not want to shut it down over $2 billion? >> reporter: well, i don't understand either, actually. but wait. 2 billion is less than two-tenths of one percent of the $3.8 trillion budget. put another way, think of that $3.8 trillion budget as the entire surface area of the earth. republicans and democrats are fighting over about area the size of ecuador. >> give me a break. >> reporter: isn't it crazy? >> no, it isn't. it's a matter of prince can. it's time we start fighting these things and getting the spending done. >> reporter: could there be politics too? >> when either party gets dominated by it's ideologues, the far right or the far left, they lose. >> reporter: so this will be good politically for you if it shuts down? >> well, we aren't saying it will be good for us politically.
it is bad for everybody. >> reporter: yes, bad for everybody, but democrats are also banking on it being good for fund-raising. today, senate democrats launched a fund raidsing letter about the looming shutdown. remember, george, this all startled as a battle to reduce the deficit. here it is, a $1.6 trillion deficit this year. even if they get agreement tonight on the full $40 billion in spending cuts, what does that do to the deficit? well, it takes it down about that much. not -- >> can't really see. >> reporter: not enough to call it a start. >> i can barely see that line. let me pick up with you where i left off with jake tapper. are you picking up the same vibrations on capitol hill that we are closer to a deal now than we were at the beginning of the day? >> reporter: absolutely. the expectation here, among democrats and republicans, is that they are so close that they can get a deal by midnight. of course, those last minute things can break this up. but they really believe both sides they can get a deal by
midnight and that they can do it in a way that prevents the government from shutting down. but george, that clock is ticking. >> that's right. as you say, nothing would surprise any of the negotiators right now. if that shutdown comes, the shock waves would hit americans here at home and on the front lines in afghanistan, throwing, as we said, a wrench into everything from tax refounds and adoptions to that next paychecks most military families despend on. david wright spent the day in san diego. david? >> reporter: good evening, george, from the aircraft carrier "midway" here in san diego bay. when we hear the phrase government shutdown, we all tend to think of a big faceless bureaucracy. but this means uncertainty for everyone in uniform. a huge impact across the country and around the world. in afghanistan, morale took a huge hit today. these men of the 101st airborne just survived one of the most harrowing firefights of the war.
only to find out today that their paychecks may be delayed. >> i have three kids and a wife, and i need to pay my rent. >> reporter: six of their comrades were killed in last week's firefight. but a shutdown would mean that, for now, the pentagon would not be able to pay the usual $100,000 death benefit. a slap in the face to these men. >> we're here taking care of the country. we expect the country to take care of us when we're away from the homeland. >> reporter: now fighting for their country, worried about pay. here on the homefront, lance corporal mike goodwin and his wife denise are being extra careful about their grocery list. stocking up today at the local food for less instead of their usual store. >> we're definitely stressed not knowing if we're going to be able to make rent this month and, you know, our car bill and stuff like that. >> reporter: does this make you angry? >> i definitely have mixed emotions about it. hard to say motivated and focused at the task at hand when you're more worried about providing food. >> reporter: as the politicians
bicker, they're pinching pennies. from the statue of liberty to yosemite national park, the shutdown means national parks would be closed. grand teton national park was going to be a majestic destination for the keen family's father-daughter trip. >> for them to shut down over something like a budget is just silly. >> reporter: vacations now in jeopardy. today, we heard from half a dozen disappointed school classes, planning field trips to washington, d.c. over spring break. they're still going, even though the sites will all be closed. and from seattle to south florida, the people who work for the federal government are now having to plan for no paycheck. >> this is america. we shouldn't be in a predicament like this. >> reporter: but america is in this predicament because the politicians in washington can't seem to agree. and it's worth noting, george, of course, that the politicians in washington are going to be paid whether or not there's a shutdown, leaving hundreds of
thousands lower down the food chain to bear the brunt of this. >> that's why many members of congress will say they will not take their pay. we're going to stay on this story all night long, including tonight on "nightline." we want to hear how the government shutdown will effect you. tell us your story at a b abcnews.com/worldne abcnews.com/worldnews. turning to syria, where the streets swelled with protesters. and in a southern city, the day turned bloody. at least 23 were killed when security forces opened fire on the crowds. and in cairo, a kind of deja vu. tens of thousands swarmed tahrir square. and in japan, exactly four weeks after the devastating earthquake and tsunami, there was a grim reminder today of the continuing fallout from the ka tras toe free. a massive debris field has been discovered and it is heading to our shores. here's neal karlinsky.
enormous chunks of entire towns washed out to sea by the tsunami are now being found floating in open waters. sailors from the u.s. navy's 7th fleet say they've never seen anything like it. >> it's very challenging to move through these to consider these boats run on propellers, and that these fishing nets or other debris can be dangerous to the vessels. >> reporter: that now famous dog rescued off a floating house nearly a week ago gave us a glimpse of what's out there, but there are cars and furniture, too. even floating homes. all now a threat to shipping traffic. the debris field is massive, stretching as much as 500 miles across the pacific. a distance of new york all the way to michigan. and it's headed straight for the united states. it will move with a powerful current called the north pacific gyre, carrying the remnants of 200,000 destroyed buildings towards washington state, then oregon and california. oceanographers say a year from now we'll begin to see things that easily float, like boats, wood from houses and plastic children's toys. two years out, things that don't
carry as well in the wind, like fishing supplies and innocents will come ashore. and after three years shoes, shoes, plastic furniture, even entire dining sets. >> so, you have to imagine a city, say the size of of about seattle, put it through a grinder and what happens? you wind up with all kinds of debris. >> reporter: sad reminders of a disaster so enormous, parts of japan will finally come to rest half a world away. neal karlinsky, abc news, tokyo. and still ahead on "world news," are children being physically abused because some churches believe it's god's will? the growing campaign to ban teenagers from tanning booths. and why the jonas brothers and millions of others are giving up their shoes. our "person of the week." and then...i water too little... too much... or i just forget. but look. this is doing fine. why? it's planted in miracle-gro moisture control potting mix. it holds 33% more water... than ordinary potting soil.
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of them across the country. ultra-conservative, interpreting the bible literally. zichterman is one of many former members, who, in a "20/20" investigation, claim they're lifting the veil on physical and sexual abuse within some ifb congregations and churches that cover it up. it all begins with what she calls church sanctioned abuse. >> if you're not bruising your child at times, you're not sp k spanking the child enough. >> one pastor says two weeks after they come home from the hospital. >> reporter: a two-week-old baby needs to be spanked? for what? >> crying too much. >> reporter: what happens when church members take discipline too far? last year, this ifb couple was charged with beating their seven year old daughter to death. they pleaded not guilty but police say they were following the disciplining techniques in a book widely read in ifb circles. and last month, two leaders of an ifb church in wisconsin were charged with child abuse. they pleaded not guilty.
this ifb pastor condemns the abuse and insists that ifb churches are not all the same. >> they're independent fundmental baptist churches that are highly controlling, that do some quite bozo things. but to broad brush them and to say okay, this is what every independent fundamental baptist church is, isn't fair-handed. >> reporter: is there a problem with ifb churches and the abuse of children? >> we happen to be fundamental. we believe in historic christianity. that doesn't mean we're part of an organization of hiding abuse. >> reporter: we spoke to several women who say they were sexually abused as girls and felt they were blamed while their attackers were allowed to remain in the church. at least two teenage girls were forced to stand up in front of their congregations and confess their sins. one of them was just 15 years old when she was allegedly raped. her allege ed rapist was sittin in the congregation. >> thank you, elizabeth.
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are now following that lead. >> reporter: the bright bold colors of prom season are back. when tanned skin is often the accessory of choice. but not if you're a teen in great britain. children are now banned from using sun beds. that same effort is also underway here in the u.s. 12 states currently have bills pending that propose age restrictions for using commercial tanning salons. in the "golden state," voting could begin as soon as monday to ban those under 18. texas already has a law which prohibits those under 167 and a half. >> i have a name for these tanning beds. i call them cancer coffins. and if they only knew the real risk, because, you see, melanoma kills people and it kills our younger people. >> reporter: according to the skin cancer foundation, indoor tanning before age 35 raises the risk for melanoma, the deadliest form of skin cancer, by 75%. lori greenberg had no idea she would be putting herself at risk when she started using tanning beds in the ninth grade.
>> i was told that it was safe. >> reporter: she's been battling melanoma off and on for the last decade. do you think that your daughter got cancer because of the tanning beds rather than natural sunshine? >> definitely the tanning beds. >> reporter: the world health organization recently added tanning beds to its group one list of cancer-causing substances the same group as cigarettes. while the fda is considering stricter regulation on tanning beds, they are currently in the same medical category as band aids. the indoor tanning association maintains the decision should be left up to a teen's parents. they released this statement. "if such a law were to pass, a 17-year-old could drive a car, get married, have children, go off to college, join the military and not be allowed to sun tan indoors." linsey davis, abc news, new york. and when we return, he's inspired the jonas brothers and thousands more to go bear foot f for a cause. and he's our "person of the week."
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you're sharing with that child. seeing the joy on these kids' faces, it really touched me. that child will never care about the number of shoes we've given away. all they care about is they're getting a brand new pair of shoes in a loving way, and that is such an awesome experience. >> reporter: it's catching on too. this past tuesday, toms launched their annual "day without shoes" campaign, encouraging others to experience what so many poor kids deal with every day. hundreds of thousands took him up on it, including heather graham and the jonas brothers, all kicking off their shoes and going barefoot. they took the cause to the streets and online, posting their pictures and videos on the internet. >> it really is a day of awareness and activism because you're not just creating awareness, you're actually doing something. and when you give people the opportunity to do that, it transforms their experiences. they're part of a movement. >> reporter: a movement that began with one man's brainstorm. >> i had an idea and it was a
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